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When I view it as linear it goes like this:Bane said:Yes, the way that they're split concerning the editing would make it very hard to connect them, but like you said if you can do it "in your head" it's easier to see. It's really in large part due to the music and how Hogwarts is introduced at the beginning of Part 2. I think the white flash from the end of the Voldemort scene at the end of Part 1 could transition to the white foggy glow of the dementors shot, but then you have the music and the shots of Snape to deal with which makes it more difficult.


But that's the thing. They could not have made that entire third act 30 minutes even if it had been one film. It's much more dense/long than, say, OotP's climax.yonythemoony said:I think that The DH movies are just like a single movie, with three acts. The first act with Harry at The Burrow, then going to Grimmauld Place and sneaking into The Ministry. The second act is The trio's exile, Ron's departure, going to the Lovegoods and Malfoy Manor and Dobby's death. Voldemort stealing The Elder Wand it's The end of Act 2. And The third act it's Gringotts and the final battle. Basically we had a two hours movie of the third act. When they could have made a single three hours movie, and the third act as the last 30 minutes, like OOTP.


The point I'm trying to make is that they could have condensed the climax down much, much further than they did. Heyman even said that if they kept it as one film they would have completely lost the Snape memories. That's how dire it would have been. So yes, I feel that it was a gracious move on their part to split it and stretch out the climax. Basically I'm saying that we got a lot more than we would have otherwise, and we got a lot more than we were at some points going to get before Kloves said hey, this can't be done without a much longer running time or two movies.TheDoctor said:And yes, Part 2 is kind of a "2 hour" conclusion/climax to Part 1 and the entire series, but that's because that's what the source material and the plot calls for, the film makers didn't generously stretch out the climax, the story's structure required it to be that long because much more happens in it than can be fit into 10-15 minutes (i'm probably not getting my thoughts across well lol)






I don't think they would necessarily have taken away the whole thing, but the memories would certainly have been cut to the bare essentials, possibly less since they aren't too concerned with exposition. Basically it would have been the scene of Snape changing allegience, him promising to kill Dumbledore, and the reveal of Harry being a Horcrux. The whole Lily motivation would likely have been savaged.TheDoctor said:I know this is an extremely lame argument and i'm just sort of going against what was said, but I think there is no way they would ever have completely cut Snape's memories. I think Heyman was just saying that for dramatic impact to justify the split. Why would you cut Snape's memories, one of the main cores of DH and the entire series, when there's plenty of other stuff that could be cut/trimmed if it just had to be one film. That would be an awful decision.
I do think they should have given Part 1 more of an ending with a better climax and more of an emotional resolution (Hallows vs. Horcruxes).
I simply think its more naturalistic because they're in more naturalistic environments. The cinematography is piloted in such a way to where when they're out in the woods and getting pissed off at each other, we get more off-balanced shots to reflect the uncertain, doom-like situations whereas its more focused in Part 2 because they know what they have to do and there's more of a bee-line to the resolution instead of being stuck and having nowhere to go or any idea what to do.Braveheart said:See to me the movies feel different on a film-making level too. It's probably intentional, since the crew and Yates set out to make them feel different, but the cinematography in Part 1 was much more naturalistic. In Part 2 there was a lot more of that sweeping operatic feel to it. The music was ten times as grand and epic, too. Of course different sections of the novel call for different styles, but it doesn't look to me as though they were particularly bothered with trying to make the style similar anyway.


