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HP relation to Voldemort

linux felicislinux felicis
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Has anyone noticed that Harry and Voldemort are distant relatives? Harry's dad is a direct descendant of one of the Peverell brothers ,as the cloak suggests. Marvollo Gaunt is also a descendant of one of the brothers in the tail ,as the reseraction stone on his ring suggests. That could only mean that Harry and Tom Riddle are relatives and maybe that's why they have similar characteristics and powers...

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  • Wilbo421Wilbo421
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    Yes, lol. It is made pretty obvious in the book, I think most of us probably realised whilst reading Deathly Hallows for the first time ; )
  • linux felicislinux felicis
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    What I don't get is why did JKR go into the trouble of creating this link and then left it hanging. She didn't take advantage of it at all. It's somewhat disappointing but on the other hand a good kick off for another book!
  • AlonseRAlonseR
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    Yeah well it says pretty much all of the pure-blood families or what's left of them are related cos there are so few and decreasing every generation. I see what you mean about leaving it hanging but at that point in the story I was tired of hearing about the past and wanted to see some action.
  • hp4gwhp4gw
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    yes that is part of the whole relationshipy connection thing yes :)
  • RowlingintheDeepRowlingintheDeep
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    LE GASP!

    HARRY KILLED HIS OWN FAMILY! THE MURDERER!!!!
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  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD
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    RowlingintheDeep said:

    LE GASP!

    HARRY KILLED HIS OWN FAMILY! THE MURDERER!!!!

    Que eventual overreaction to this old thread bumping.
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  • aaronaaron
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    Cue*
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  • Sir_CadoganSir_Cadogan
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    "Hile! Hile!" he screamed in a ringing, carrying voice. "To me, gunslingers! To me! Ride them down! No Prisoners!"
  • XDMorsmordreXDXDMorsmordreXD
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    aaron said:

    Cue*

    You hate me, :-))
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  • RichardRichard
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    lmao
  • AratronAratron
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    Old news, she didn't take advantage of it because it's not needed we don't even know how far back the Peverells are. As far as we know it's probably thousands of years possibly even before Hogwarts was created. In reality at that point we could all be related to some king or queen or some person who was famous for something. Hell, I'll start but just for the matter I don't REALLY know how true this is but I may or may not be the great great great (etc.) grandson of an illegitimate swedish prince. All that is according to my mother, but again I'm not even sure I'd trust her on this.
    Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. - C. S. Lewis
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  • RichardRichard
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    First Post edited by Nick^

    Dafuq
  • AbhiAbhi
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    :O
  • AratronAratron
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    I am so lost now....
    Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. - C. S. Lewis
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  • HoppHopp
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    My goodness I did not know this. Obviously harry's side of the family got the looks.
  • aaronaaron
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    Hopp said:

    My goodness I did not know this. Obviously harry's side of the family got the looks.

    Tom was very handsome before he destroyed his looks by the creation of horcruxes.
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  • Sir_CadoganSir_Cadogan
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    Who are the Peverell brothers?
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford
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    The Master's of Death.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • Sir_CadoganSir_Cadogan
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    I thought Harry Potter was the Master of Death...
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford
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    He was. Ignotus was the only one of the brothers to become the Master of Death.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • RowlingintheDeepRowlingintheDeep
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    Lord Stafford said:

    He was. Ignotus was the only one of the brothers to become the Master of Death.

    Lord Stafford.

    When did Ignotus own all 3?
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford
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    He didn't. But that doesn't make a difference if you accept the inevitability of death. He mastered that, and thus... mastered death.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • RowlingintheDeepRowlingintheDeep
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    Lord Stafford said:

    He didn't. But that doesn't make a difference if you accept the inevitability of death. He mastered that, and thus... mastered death.

    Lord Stafford.

    Yes but he wasn't the "Master of Death" as in the title given to the one who owns all 3.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford
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    You can read about it.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • RowlingintheDeepRowlingintheDeep
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    Lord Stafford said:

    You can read about it.

    Lord Stafford.

    Read about what, him owning all 3? I'm pretty sure Harry is the only known person to have owned all 3.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford
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    I never said that Ignotus owned all three. I only know that he was the Master of Death.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • aaronaaron
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    Neither of the Peverell brothers were the Master of Death. Only the one who possessed all three Hallows was considered that name. Therefore, Harry was the only one.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford
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    Go to the HP Wiki.

    P.S 13,500TH COMMENT!!

    Lord Stafford.
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  • RowlingintheDeepRowlingintheDeep
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    From HP wiki

    He who possesses these 3 artifacts would become the master of death.

    No one but Harry Potter has been known to have owned all 3 Hallows at one time.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford
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    From HP Wiki.

    Known Masters of Death.

    ■ Ignotus Peverell (only mastered one of the Hallows, but mastered the acceptance of inevitability)
    ■ Albus Dumbledore (possessed all three Hallows, but not at the same time (mastering the Elder Wand, gifting the Cloak of Invisibility to Harry during his 1st year at Christmas and finding the Resurrection Stone in the Gaunt shack)
    ■ Harry Potter (mastered all three Hallows, and accepted his own death)

    Lord Stafford.

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  • RowlingintheDeepRowlingintheDeep
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    Well right there, he didn't master death and he wasn't the master of death. Only Harry ever was the master of death.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford
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    Known Masters of Death?

    Lord Stafford.
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  • RowlingintheDeepRowlingintheDeep
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    Harry was the only known master of death. That's all that's known. Could there have been another to unite them? Possibly, but it's likely they would have kept them, so odds say no. Ignatus probably wouldn't have because the Elder Wand was taken from his brother after the 3 brothers separated.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford
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    Look above. What does it say in my quote from the Wiki?

    Lord Stafford.
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  • RowlingintheDeepRowlingintheDeep
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    I don't care what it says, lmfao, the only true master of death was Harry.

    Also, add in the fact anyone can edit wiki or fan wikis. That doesn't make it correct.

    Harry Potter is the only wizard as told to us by JKR in any way, book or interview, that was the Master if Death (to my knowledge). That title is misleading, because ignatus and albus never united the 3 Hallows.
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  • TheDoctorTheDoctor
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    *sigh* The story goes that the true master of death is one who owns all 3, but Dumbedore later says that the true master of death is one who accepts that he must eventually die.
  • RowlingintheDeepRowlingintheDeep
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    TheDoctor said:

    *sigh* The story goes that the true master of death is one who owns all 3, but Dumbedore later says that the true master of death is one who accepts that he must eventually die.

    That's basically anyone in humanity with a rational mind and understanding. Millions are probably like that, accepting they are going to die eventually. Our Soldiers, whatever country you are in, do that every day. Bless our troops.

    I'm going off what the "Master of Death" title is. And that is the owner of all 3 Hallows, of which Harry is the only one.
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  • TheDoctorTheDoctor
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    The lesson of the Tale of the Three Brothers and the whole Deathly Hallows subplot is that going to extreme lengths to find ways to conquer and become the master death (like having all 3 Hallows, or in Voldemort's case, horcruxes) is futile, and that the true master of death is one who accepts that they must die and accepts it without fear (Harry).

    So yes, you are right that Harry was the only one to get all 3 Hallows and become the Master of Death in that sense, but Stafford is referring to the other meaning when he says that Ignotus was a Master of Death (while his 2 brothers weren't).
  • Sir_CadoganSir_Cadogan
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    "Hile! Hile!" he screamed in a ringing, carrying voice. "To me, gunslingers! To me! Ride them down! No Prisoners!"
  • RowlingintheDeepRowlingintheDeep
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    TheDoctor said:

    The lesson of the Tale of the Three Brothers and the whole Deathly Hallows subplot is that going to extreme lengths to find ways to conquer and become the master death (like having all 3 Hallows, or in Voldemort's case, horcruxes) is futile, and that the true master of death is one who accepts that they must die and accepts it without fear (Harry).

    So yes, you are right that Harry was the only one to get all 3 Hallows and become the Master of Death in that sense, but Stafford is referring to the other meaning when he says that Ignotus was a Master of Death (while his 2 brothers weren't).

    Yes I got that, but the thing is you could say that about a numerous amount of people. The title "Master of Death" belongs to Harry.

    THE Master of Death is Harry. Masters of death or people who mastered death are for example as you said, Ignatus, Dumbledore, and many others.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford
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    Yes, Martin. And Harry is the Master of Death, not because of the fact that he possessed all three Hallows, but because he literally mastered death and it's inevitability. He accepted death. I'm going to take Dumbledore and his word above your own.

    Lord Stafford.
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  • RowlingintheDeepRowlingintheDeep
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    Okay, maybe you can't see, but I agreed in the philosophical sense.

    BUT, once again, the title of the Master of death is given to the person who owns all 3 Hallows. Yes, Harry mastered death by accepting it, yes Albus did as well, but that title is given to Harry because he owned all 3. It's not really an argument, because it was said like 500 "whoever owns all 3 is THE Master of Death." it's not like either of us are wrong, I'm saying the title belongs to Harry, it's not hard to comprehend what I'm saying.
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  • Lord StaffordLord Stafford
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    I know it isn't, and i'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just stating my point.

    Lord Stafford.
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