Sirius Black Killed By Avada Kadevera???

Bubblecharms_1992

In the movie Sirius is killed by Avada Kadevera. But I thought he was stunned in the book and he just fell back into the viel?

Wilbo421

Yeah...and?

Bubblecharms_1992

Oh sorry. I was wondering why they made it so that he was killed by the Avada Kadevera spell.. When your reading the series for the first time its almost like there is a possibility that he could come back but now people who only watch the movies, dont have the same option in saying "Oh maybe he can come back, he just fell through the viel" Do you get what Im trying to say?

HermioneAnnGranger

Yeah, I get that. I mean the films give you quite a different opinion and view from reading the books. Therefore your theories from just the films will be a bit wrong. Just that Sirius fell through the Veil, It gives you a bit of hope, doesn't it? Hope that, maybe, he'll come back and help Harry. In the film it sort of takes away your hope ... there would be no reason or way for him to come back if he was hit by the Avada Kedavra. Just that people who have seen the film, I don't think they understand that. And maybe, David Yates ought to have considered this.

Just my opinion.

Camilla

i wish sirius was coming back but now we know he isn't. i thought when i first read the fifth book that he wasn't really dead. i agree with HermioneAnnGranger, it kind of seemed that the movie didn't capture the hope of his return.

Bubblecharms_1992

Camilla, that is exactly my thoughts! I really liked that little bit of hope that he could possibly come back I just wish that the people who only watch the movies could experience that.

Wilbo421

He had to be hit by Avada Kedavra in the film to make it obvious he had died. That hope was supposed to be exinguished after Harry's conversation with Nick at the end of Order. Because Nick's not in the films anymore, and because the scene would have added too much onto the film anyway, they had to make it instantly obvious Sirius isn't coming back. Plus, people who hadn't read the books would just accuse the fact that Sirius' disappearance would have been unexplained as sloppy film-making.

Loony Lovegood

I think maybe they wanted to show Bellatrix as pure evil .. the fact she would kill her own cousin, i don't know, i see your point though.

Dominic

i didnt see the film but i saw sirius death on yutube...its MUCH diferent than the book...in the book sirius is actualy dueling with belatrix and she stuns him then he falls thru the veil. however in film he is dueling lucius malfoy and then bela appears and shoots avada kedavra on sirius, instantly killing him then he falls in the veil.


sirius best character ever, i thout its remus lupin but sirius is coolest! i hate he died that stupid bitch LESTRANGE!!

Loony Lovegood

Well god bless Molly Weasley for killing her :D

Bubblecharms_1992

Agreed..
Molly Weasley 7th book quote:
"NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU BITCH!"

Duc_Bella

Hey, I like Bellatrix, she is evil ( Bwua hahahaha). Molly is both fat and ugly!! It is kinda something when Bellatrix killed Sirius and Tonks, 'cause i like all of them!

Bellatrix Lestrange

So do i, Bellatrix is cool, right? I like Sirius but i don't like Tonks, I hate Molly, too!!!

Halfpint_Kay91

Yeah I also was sort of disappointed they didn't give the hope of Siruis's return...that's why I always like to read the books before the movies....and it bugs me when people around me say they hate the Harry Potter books but love the movies...WTF is the difference besides the fact the books have more and better details? Sure the books take longer ot get through the storyline but it's worth it by the end...

Dominic

he is originaly killed by stupefy, or expelliarmus (red spell). he was really unlucky he had to fell thru the veil, he could fall on side.

if i can say, all the positive characters died becos of HARRY. its all his fault. cedric died at the graveyard in litle hangleton when protecting harry. sirius died protecting harry. fred, lupin and tonks died in a battle held becos of harry (battle was held so harry can find a horcrux). mad-eye moody also died tryin to get harry to safety.

Dominic

dont forget george, he lost his ear to protect harry. and peter petigrew, he strangled himself when spared harrys life. james and lily also died to protect harry, but he was a baby then, its obvious that they should protect him so i dont count that...

Wilbo421

Cedric wasn't protecting Harry, he was just caught up in the mess.

teamjakeward

Cedric was a total loser, who got himself killed by Pettigrew, he should have shoved Harry in the way

total grifindor girl

Cedric is not a loser!!!

dmalfoy

Your right he wasn't *cough* even though a fourteen year old beat him in the triwizard tournament, even after helping him in the last task as well, and then he got himself killed while a fourteen year old managed to get free.

Wilbo421

Harry didn't beat Cedric, they "picked up" the cup at the same time, Harry had help from the start and the only reason the Harry got free was because of who he was to the murderer, not because he was better than Cedric.

dmalfoy

Actually Cedric had help as well, Harry told him about the task, he was told about the Egg by Crouch Jr. Harry saved him from Krum, Harry warned him about the spider, Harry saved him from the Spider, and Harry allowed him to take the cup as well, even though he could have gotten to it first

Wilbo421

Oh OK, so you knew exactly what Cedric faced in that maze? His path could have been a thousand times more difficult than Harry's, and considering Barty Crouch Jr. was trying to eliminate Krum, Fleur and Cedric, I think it's pretty good that Cedric actually got anywhere near the cup.

Bubblecharms_1992

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I totally agree with you Wilbo421.

werthyman

sigh y did serious die

HermioneAnnGranger

[quote=Dominic]if i can say, all the positive characters died becos of HARRY. its all his fault.[/quote]

It isn't. These people didn't even need to save Harry. It was there own free-will. So technically it was Lupin's fault he died, and George's fault he died, and Tonk's and Mad-Eye's. Mad-Eye could have bailed/dissaparated like Mundungus, but he didn't because he wanted to save Harry, Harry didn't make him stay and get killed! So the real person to blame isn't at all Harry but the people who WANTED to protect Harry.

HermioneAnnGranger

Cedric was made of stronger stuff than Harry, I think. He may have been a bit, you know, stupid or snobbish, but he was also kind and re-payed Harry by helping him and giving him the information for the second task as Crouch Jr. had told Cedric about it aswell.

Cedric didn't die to save Harry, he was just the wrong person at the wrong time. And he did not protect Harry from Voldemort. As Wilbo said, Harry was alive at that very moment, and not killed just the same as Cedric or in Cedric's place because Voldemort needed him to come back to power. He needed to feel the relief of killing Harry himself.

keet

They didn't die because of Harry theu died because of the death eaters! No- one else is to blame...

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