dream_silently, I read about 10 of your first posts. They're exciting and everything but I stopped there b/c I don't wanna get excited about things which may not be true. I'm not saying you're a hoax but you could be one; this is the internet, everyone can get only and post stuff including 10 year olds, people who hallucinate, etc... so we need PROOF. Just saying "I'll try to post something around Christmas" is pretty vague, and your statements of "You don't have to believe me but I just wanted to let you guys know" could be just evasive. If you truly have information that would be like a jewel for us and we'll thank you a million times for it; but till now nothing proves it. So if you could prove the authenticity of what you say that would be great; otherwise just leave. I hope you'll excuse me for being a harsh (in case you are indeed true) but we need to know.
Thanks for all the info but..
I asked:
"1)Is there a Hogsmeade scene with the trio in Part 1 ?
You answered :
1. No they don't. The whole plot with Aberforth is a mystery (they discuss the mirror shard at Shell Cottage a lot) up until the entire sequence at Hogsmeade before the Hogwarts battles.
black_venom said : Well there is this new EW footage showing the Trio running in a foggy(?) snowy (?) street and there are wanted posters around! What's this? Godric's Hollow?
And you said :No Harry and Hermione go to Godric's Hollow alone.
It's Hogsmeade. They go to Hogsmeade in Pt. 1 (....)
i was wondering, about harry and ginny's kiss at the burrow early on, how does ron interrupt it? does he still barge into ginny's room like in the book, lol?
Did you know anything about the main trio and Ginny and Malfoy ageing in the epilogue? There are some concept arts, or previsualisations of their olders 'versions'? They 'BenjaminButtoned' them ?
And - you have mentioned it before - if you have a concept art with Harry's parents grave, I am begging you to post it here. It has increase your truthfulness, I suppose.
So if you could prove the authenticity of what you say that would be great; otherwise just leave.
He told us about Harry and Hermione not being under polyjuice potion in the Godric's Hollow scenes before the trailer leaked, and we didn't have anything before hand about that. Only someone who knew what they were talking about would know.
I told you I'll try to post the Hollow artwork.
Look I work in the art department. It's risky for me to do so and by telling you all these things I know it's completely reasonable that you need proof.
If I were you I would demand some proof too.
I'll try to do my best.
Now, if you don't believe me it's OK.
Miradon thanks for the support but it's alright.
I think I've said enough.
Goodnight. :)
I truly appreciate that you're here deeply. You're risking so much for us Happy Potter fans. I believe you 100% and best wishes to the cast and crew (especially the art department).I was wondering a few things. If you can answer (only if you can) please do so.
1. Will the battle between Dumbeldore and Grindelwald be shown through flashbacks in the film?
2.Will the events in Tottemham Court Roads Coffee Shop be shown.
3. Will the Snapes death be as graphic as in the book.
Lol risking to much..... he fruitbag's risking their mental health, to many ppl come on here and try and take the piss makin up fake accounts, you're not genuine, anyone with common sense knows that, saddo, no point in listening to anyone on here who claims they "know inside information" its a load of shit
Hmm, I dunno Keet, none of the info (admittedly ridiculously detailed) has contradicted the few scattered (and also kind of obscure) bits of information we've already had.
Can't you get ahold of a call sheet or anything, Silently? Or go into the store and just take a picture on a phone or something of a few props?
I'll ask a question, but I'll still take the answer with a pinch of salt until proof is given, if you don't mind.
How does Harry find out about each individual Horcrux he hasn't already "discovered" in the HBP movie?
I admit it's not like scoop, giving us slithers of info, he is quite detailed. I think he is quite possibly genuine, and being quite risky. Or he has finished up his contracted work in the art department and feels no obligation to keep secrets. Or this is deliberate, and warner brothers like to keep us excited. Or I'm being rediculous and deluded. Urgh.
I have one question, does Harry act like he does in the book, as in, the mental connection between Harry and Voldemort becomes stronger and Harry at times is insufferable? This is great acting material for Dan.
I'm not convinced with all these accounts being made.....
Honestly, I think it's just a lot of interested people who've heard about it.
For instance, when Dream first posted the thread, I posted what they said over on the IMDb board, warning everyone it could well be fake. And then that attracted some people over hear, more stuff kept getting repeated back to IMDb, probably this has started spreading around the other fan sites etc.
Internet Movie Database. It's a website where people go to find out information, like cast and crew lists, for films, and each film has it's own messageboard. There's quite a big...group of people who talk to each other on the Harry Potter IMDb boards and they move boards everytime a new movie's come out (so when HBP came out, everyone moved over to the DH:Part 1 board).
dream_silently. I must admit that after the Scoop incident I find it incredibly hard to believe all these spoilers. However, your info does seem really genuine ^ ^
Here's something I am most curious about:
- How will the Deathly Hallows Tale (the 3 brothers) be told in the movie? Will Xeno describe the whole thing to the trio like in the book?? Or will the filmmakers find some other creative way to tell this story visually?
- Is there a chance of John Williams coming back to do the score?
- During the battle, will there be a scene when the DA create patronuses together to fight the dementors?? Also, will we see the spiders and giants participating? (I know you said it's mostly wizard battle, but I still want to see them take part).
Chris,
I told you they do visit Hogsmeade in Part 1. They just don't meet Aberforth. The whole Aberforth story unfolds in Part 2.
They will not show the battle between Dumbledore and Grindelwald, no.
Yes the cafe fight is in the film. Actually you'll like the entire London chase, I think. When the Trio apparates, they start running in the streets. Then they feel they've been watched and try to calm down. We see DEs flying over London downtown and over the streets. The trio hides and changes clothes and as they exit, they recognize a Death Eater they've seen at the Burrow. They walk away quickly and go to the cafe shop where the Death Eaters attack.
Yes Snape's death is going to be graphic. There are no limits in both films.
Wilbo,
the Horcrux story is handled quite well I think. From what I know, Harry and Kreacher corner Mandungus in Diagon Alley/Knockturn Alley and learn that Umbridge has the real locket. Concerning the cup, Bellatrix is the one who asks Hermione if she stole the Gryffindor Sword and the Cup. Harry later realizes that this Cup must be a Horcrux and Hermione tells him that rumor has it, Hufflepuff's cup hasn't been found.This sets the entire story for the Ravenclaw Diadem, as well: Voldemort's interest in the ancient objects of the four founders of Hogwarts. Finally, Harry learns about the unknown Horcrux that's been hidden in Hogwarts and Nagini through Voldemort's mind who panicks when he learns the Locket, the Ring and the Cup have been destroyed. Ron and Hermione don't go with Harry to the Room of Requirement. They go to the Chamber of Secrets and Ginny guides Harry to the Room of Hidden Objects in order to find the tiara.
'Not my daughter, you bitch' is in the film. Yes.
Yes there are many scenes where Harry 'reads' Voldemort's mind. These visions start very early in the film (at the Burrow) along with Harry's nightmares (Dumbledore,Snape and Sirius).
HalfBloodKing,
Xeno does discuss the Three Brothers tale and Hermione reads the book throughout all their days camping. The script doesn't have any flashback but there are pictures inside the book. I don't think they'll add any flashback but I can't be 100% sure. Until now, it's not in the script of Part 1.
Yes John Williams will possibly return but they are in negotiations with 2 other composers. But I think they've decided. I think they've said it'll be announced sometime these two forthcoming months.
The battle focuses mostly on wizards, yes. Though, we see spiders and Dementors. There aren't any house-elves and giants in the script but we've worked on giants approaching the castle in the art department. They are reluctant to include them, though. The Centaurs have very short scenes where they're inside the forest and shoot millions of arrows towards the Death Eaters at the end of the climax.
Yes there are some interesting scenes with the Dementors. We'll see Patronuses yes.
Now, I'll be working these weeks and I won't have much time to spend. I'll try to post an artwork sketch of Harry's parents' house or two parts of the script (possibly the Burrow and the Snatchers chase scenes). I've only got the Part 1 script-third draft. But I'm 90% sure they haven't changed almost anything. We've got very few parts of Part 2 (personally I've only got parts of Shell Cottage and Malfoy Manor and Snape's memories) becuase Steve Kloves is still working on parts of it.
Filming wraps in May.
I'll be gone for few days but I'll come back.
Bye.
than you so much, which snape's memories are in the film? i love michael gambon and i would like to know if he is going to have enough scenes in these films.
Almost all scenes with Dumbledore and Snape are in the film. They've cut most scenes with Petunia/Lily/Snape. The memories have a different structure in the film. It will work better cinematically.
The Ravenclaw plot is changed. Much changed. No we don't see Bloody Baron. This is one of the parts of the script that seems to change every time. Right now, the Grey Lady is not in the film. Harry learns that Voldemort's hidden the final Horcrux in Hogwarts, Hermione and Luna tell him about the Diadem being Ravenclaw's ancient object and Ginny remembers having hidden the HBP book next to something that seemed like a diadem. Ginny and Harry go to check, Draco,Goyle and Blaise attack, Harry realises this IS the Diadem and the Fiendfyre scene occurs.
hey! you said that mcgonagall has more scenes in this movie, so where she is in part 1?
has maggie smith already filmed scenes for the final movies? and when she will be back on set?
does mcgonagall has a bigger role in this movie?
thank you for your answer, sorry for bad english...
Hedwig's death is quick and shocking. There is so much chaos that there is no moment to let Harry grieve.
At the Burrow, though, he is very silent at one point where they briefly try to discuss Hedwig.
I think that's all.
It'll feel bad because this is an owl, an animal. And the audience knows that Harry Potter is the guy with the glasses, the scar, the broomstick and the owl. So it's shocking. But it doesn't last. The focus is Moody's death, George's injury and Voldemort's future plans.
In my opinion, the Burrow scenes are some of the best in DH.
I also forgot to mention that-do you remember in 'Prince' where the DEs tried to test Hogwarts defences hitting the protective sphere? The same thing happens again at the Burrow. One night, as Harry's still awake examining the Snitch, he hears distant sounds and takes his wand and sees few DEs trying to penetrate the Burrow grounds by testing its protection 'bubble'. And Harry sees few Death Eaters inside the reeds. It'll feel like they are all gathered at the house and few yards away, the Death Eaters are waiting for them.
Juno,
Maggie Smith doesn't have LOTS of scenes but she's got more screentime than in the book. And I mean that we see her at Hogwarts in Part 1, while we didn't in the book. She has began shooting scenes and she'll keep shooting until April/May.
About Hogwarts scenes in Part 1:
we don't see many scenes. Actually, in total, they will last less than 15 minutes altogether.
In the beginning there is this entire invasion of Death Eaters and Dementors, where Snape is watching from the Astronomy Tower and McGonagall,Slughorn,Flitwick,Sprout etc. watch from the Great Hall and courtyard.
Then we see Hogwarts Express going to Hogwarts with Death Eaters patrolling the train and the 'new' Trio talking in a compartment.
Then there are short scenes when they reach the Gates and the Death Eaters take the students away. The DEs are on the walls and grounds of Hogwarts. We have Snape's speech and then, if I remember correctly, the new Trio attempts to steal the Gryffindor Sword and Snape captures them. We also see Hagrid being attacked from DEs and fleeing to the woods and the new D.A. hiding in the new Room of Requirement. McGonagall has an argument with Snape,too and we also see a short montage of all teachers being controlled by DEs (a scene where Slughorn is followed by Death Eaters). That's pretty much everything. I forgot to mention the little glimpses of Draco, who is still very gloomy, lonely and sad. They keep his dark, silent and afraid profile in both DH parts. They are thinking of adding a few more, but they started shooting all this stuff in September so they may or they may not.
In you opinion which biggest/longest/most important scenes are cuted? What fans will regret for the most? And the oposite : Is there any completely new big/long / important scene ?
thank you for your answers! last question: so mcgonagall is most in part 2, like in the book. But I like the new hogwart 's stuff, we didnt get in the book, sounds promising. do you know if the ravenclaw tower scene is inside? but you said that the confrontation with snape is in the film and she has more lines than in the last films.
thanks :)
Luna is at Malfoy Manor and, before that, we learn from Xeno that she's been trapped.
Bereski,
well they haven't changed something THAT much to make fans angry. I think that they have edited large parts of Snape's memories and they've also reduced the Dursleys scene to very few minutes. They have also cut major parts of the Trio's stay in the House of Black and that's all I think.
The other changes are many but small.
Completely big and important scene?
The Hogsmeade visit in Part 1 and the Knockturn Alley chase are new and important scenes,in my opinion. There are all these new scenes at Hogwarts, few skirmishes and fight scenes throughout the Trio's running into the wild and that's all.
McGonagall has more screentime in Part 2 and I think she is featured as much as she was in Philosopher's Stone-which has the most of her.
There is indeed a confrontation with Snape yes. It's much different though. There are no daggers or armours. It's mostly spells and the use of the four elements- reminds a bit of the Dumbledore/Voldemort duel in 'Phoenix' but it's not as extravagant. Still, it will be very impressive.
So who are the other 2 composers they have in talks?
Is George's ear injury toned down at all?
How is Fred's death done? Is it the same as the book?
Is the battle of Hogwarts just lots of scenes like OOTP veil room scene? Or is the battle more intense?
And what is the Snatchers Chase Like? Tell us about that please.
Can you please describe Ron and Hermione's kiss? Is it short or kinda long? How do they actually get to the kiss? What do they say/what happens that prompts them to do it?
Hedwig's death is quick and shocking. There is so much chaos that there is no moment to let Harry grieve.
At the Burrow, though, he is very silent at one point where they briefly try to discuss Hedwig.
I think that's all.
It'll feel bad because this is an owl, an animal. And the audience knows that Harry Potter is the guy with the glasses, the scar, the broomstick and the owl. So it's shocking. But it doesn't last. The focus is Moody's death, George's injury and Voldemort's future plans.
Ah. Well dream, sorry to say but I know for a fact now that you're lying. I've seen proof to contradict this claim. That's why I chose that specific question. What happens in the film is very different from the book in this particular case. You failed the test.
Everyone, he's a fake. Don't trust a word he's saying. This is scoop all over again.
I won't say. Unlike dream, I'm keeping my mouth shut. I only did this to prove for myself he's not to be trusted. Go ahead and believe him if you want. I'm satisfied with my results.
I'm not necessarily believing him (now) or anything but can't you at least tell us how it is contradicted. Looking at dream's reply it is quite vague and doesn't really leave much to contradict. "Hedwig's death is quick and shocking". That's what you'd expect given the context of the scene...What does the owl die in her sleep or something?
There's one huge contradiction in his reply. When you see the movie you'll know right away. His response may seem vague to those who don't know the details, but he got something obvious so very wrong.
"I won't say. Unlike dream, I'm keeping my mouth shut."
Well, if you don't provide any proof, you have the same exact credibility as silent_dream, in which case you should just shut up and stop attention-whoring. You first tell everyone "sorry the whole thing's a scam!" but then you don't want to provide evidence. If it was only a "test" for you and not one you were going to prove, you should've kept it to yourself. Either prove it or shut up.
Well I was trying to put it nicely but I am in agreement with hp4eva. You shouldn't claim lack of credibility from one person and then refuse to provide proof that they are in fact lying...even if he is lying and you are right, it isn't fair on the rest of us who aren't sure whether to believe him. :/
I guess Emmafan should let me know what exactly happens in the scene.
Then I'll be able to tell better lies.
Anyway. If you know things about the entire film and I was right in all the other parts except Hedwig's death then I'd better check if the script has changed even though this sequence was filmed...months ago?
Well, this is it. I'm tired and I know you all need proof. I was intending to give you part of the script and an artwork sketch but it seems that you've realised I'm a liar. It's alright.
I hope that, while you see new glimpses, you'll realise that what I've said is true.
I know it's not fair, I completely agree with you. Providing proof is compromising that I'm not willing to do, it would get too many people into trouble. I'm lucky enough to know more facts than most here. I don't know everything but I do know some stuff that has allowed dream to hang himself without him even knowing it.