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    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    I saw the film yesterday. I was in a special screening for our villagecinemas. I am not a big fan but I've read the Order, Half-Blood Prince, Goblet of Fire and Deathly Hallows and I really liked them. Anyway, I saw the installment and it was rather good.

    First, if there's something really good in this film then it is the cinematography. I am a fan of Delbonell and I never expected him to be part of the franchise. But his work was pretty amazing. Definitely best cinematography of the series. Hands down.
    The acting was really good too. Gambon was shockingly great in his scenes. Jim Broadbent was extremely funny but the emotional scene in the end where he gives the memory was tear-jerking. I also loved Alan Rickman's performance-as always. He was quiet and silent in most of his scenes and he had this cold and mysterious look...which was great. His climactic scene was extremely well-done.
    The kids were all good. especially Radcliffe and Felton. Felton was a pleasant surprise he plays really well. He caught my attention from the beginning (but he really shines in the second part of the film).Watson had a really emotional scene during Christmas holidays and she was really good. Loved it.
    Anyway about the film now!
    It begins with a short scene where Harry is in the Ministry and they take pictures of him. The music was quite sad and ominous and the transition to the title was pretty chilling. I don't know it made me feel great.
    The clouds become the cloudy environment of London. We see a modern office and people looking outside. The Dark Mark appears (it's a bunch of grey clouds creating the 'skull') and Death Eaters fly over the town. They attack Diagon Alley and a Bridge. The beginning was really powerful yet short. But we had to get that sense of a sudden attack I suppose. I didn't expect this though I had seen the Bridge collapsing in the trailers but...that made a cool opening.
    Dumbledore takes Harry from a train station and they go to Slughorn's. Actually I didn't care that the Dursleys were cut. Broadbent was funny as hell and his 'armchair' scene will make you laugh so much! Anyway things happen very quickly and Harry is suddenly at the Burrow. There's a brief scene with Ginny at the living room-kitchen place where she hugs him (first romantic scene with them preparing the things I guess). Then the trio is atop the Burrow where there's a small balcony outside (nice design you'll see). I loved this new part of the Burrow. Anyway, I guess I had seen only 10-12 minutes of the film till that point.
    Then we had an awesome scene. Bellatrix and Narcissa walking down a dark street heading to Snape's place. It was foggy and rainy so it was a rather gritty environment. I won't say anything about the Vow scene because it's really great. Helen McCrory was surprisingly good! You'll see though!
    Oh and they showed Wormtail for a minute or so!
    Then we are back to Diagon Alley where they walk down the street and see the place being quite empty. Ollivanders shop was destroyed. Twins shop was colorful and fun. But it was a brief scene around 2-3 minutes tops. I loved a detail with some Love Potions actually. You'll love this (and it has to do with Ginny too!).Anyway the Trio goes to Knockturn Alley because they're following Draco. They don't hear what's going on but Hermione gets to see things a little bit clearer. That was a pretty dark moment but it was short.
    So it's been merely 20-25 minutes but we've seen all we needed. Then it's the Hogwarts Express scene and a nice and dark moment with Draco. They've put big dining cars for all students. That was a really nice detail! Luna 'saves' Harry and they return to Hogwarts. i didn't care about Tonks. She has a nice scene in the middle of the film at the Burrow anyway. Luna was really funny everytime she was on screen.
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    Then...things pass by quite quickly. The Feast, the Potions lesson, the Tryouts, the lesson with Dumbledore...The Feast has a spooky part in it (the music and Dumbledore's speech about Voldemort was pretty powerful). The lesson was nothing spectacular but it was a nice serious and dark moment. I loved the Tryouts though. It was the only 'big' scene (around 4 minutes) and I loved Grint's performance. And it's fun and quite action-packed and entertaining too. Then Katie Bell gets the Necklace. That's a moment I should mention. The scene was...creepy. Truly creepy. Especially the way she' flying and when she lands like a puppet...damn that was spooky. Then there's a really intense moment where Snape examines the necklace and Harry tells him about his suspicions about Draco. Though, things change dramatically. Now we've got 20 minutes full of romance. There are almost no dark scenes from what I remember. The Quidditch Match was awesome but too small (like 30 seconds?). I may exaggerate though but it felt...too small. Lavender is great fun and then there's this scene with Hermione that's so emotional. Then there's the Party (some great funny moments with Hermione and Luna)and we're back at the Burrow. There's some romance with Ginny and Harry but the scenes are quite heavy and serious there. Especially with Mr.Weasley and Lupin (it's the first appearance ). Bellatrix and Greyback attack the Burrow and everything ends before it even started. That was a part that I couldn't understand. I found it a powerful intense moment but...everything happened so quickly.Everything's vague in my head about this. There's fire around the house, Harry is suddenly at the field chasing Bella who has disappeared completely and then Ginny is attacked from Greyback...the others come and the house is on fire. It was confusing. Maybe I am stupid though but so many things had happened and I lost it somehow. Though it was a pretty impressive small scene.
    Dumbledore tells Harry to get Slughorn's full memory and Harry goes but Slughorn doesn't say anything. Ron gets love-potion-ed and they go back to Slughorn's place. These were so funny scenes. Slughorn looks at Harry angrily in the beginning but then realises that there's something else going on. Lavender and Ron break up right after Ron gets poisoned and that's because he murmurs Hermione's name in his sleep. Harry and Draco fight and we've got the Sectumsempra scene. That was a quick moment but the result was intesne yet not bloody. There was very little blood but the cinematography and the colors were so majestic (Draco lying in the water almost dead was a brilliant shot wait to see). That's the moment where Harry and Ginny kiss. Ginny helps Harry hide the book in the Room of Requirement. They kiss and she leaves. Then there are only 5-10 minutes before the climax. Harry goes to Hagrid's with Slughorn (whom he met at the Greenhouses) and they bury Aragog. Harry gets the memory when Slug is drunk (that was a really emotional moment). Dumbledore sees the real memory and they talk about the Horcruxes-there's chilling foreshadowing here I won't spoil it. Then Snape and Dumbledore talk but Snape leaves when Harry arrives. They go to the Cave and find the Locket. The Inferi scene was too quick. But it was spectacular for its limited seconds. The fiery ring was a spectacular moment and we're back at Hogwarts. The Cave scene was impressive though. It was the longest action scene of the film (around 7-8 minutes totally). Well Bella is at Hogwarts too (nice add!). We know what happens at the Tower and then there's a disappointing moment...no fight...and it ends quite abruptly. I won't say anything else about the climax though. It's an important moment and I shouldn't spoil it for you. The aftermath is quite touching but there's no funeral. I thought there should have been a funeral because when I read the book the most powerful moments were the Cave, the death and the funeral scenes. Anyway...it ended in a nice way.
    So...that's pretty much it. Ask whatever you want and I'll try to answer as much as possible.
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    I loved the art direction, the visual effects and the cinematography. The acting was solid too. The story had some problems though. The dark moments (especially with Draco or Dumbledore) were really good and there was a lot of foreshadowing (about Harry's fate and Dumbledore's ending but you couldn't understand what was about to happen clearly. But there was something spooky in the air). The romance is really sweet but there's lot of it in the middle which will attract audiences of course. There is humor, darkness,some action and romance too. It blends everything nicely but there's too much in it. It's becoming confusing sometimes. You've got to remember all the relationships then the Voldemort story and then we're back to Malfoy...they should have slowed down a bit. But it's OK. I will see it again and I'm sure I'll like it even more. But it's a beautiful film. Definitely the best along with 'Up' this year.
    There were these problems but no film is flawless.
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      CommentAuthorrabastan
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009 edited
     
    it's sounds awesome!
    I'd like to ask (I've already done it in another thread) if, at the end, there is anything that foretells what's happening in deathly hallows?
    something like harry saying he's not coming back next year, or ron's informig about bill and fleur's wedding.. anything?
    thank u!
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    Nothing about the wedding no. But yes Harry says that he's not coming back etc. and Hermione actually tells him that he's 'stupid' to think that they're not coming with him. And Ron joins them and they look at the grounds. Harry says that he realizes how beautiful the grounds are. And we see the Phoeniz flying in the clouds. (beautiful ending shot)

    I hope I helped.
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    Can you tell us about the tryouts?
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      CommentAuthorkeet
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2009
     
    woop woop! cant wait to see it :D
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009
     
    Well the tryouts is a fun scene. I'm sure you'll love it. Even if it felt a little indifferent because it really didn't offer anything special to the story it was a really enjoyable and entertaining 4/5-minute scene. I guess it's used for entertaining reasons and to give a little bit of action and fun in the film.
    Well Harry is telling all these Gryffindor players-wannabes that they weren't able to enter the team last year but now it's their time. I remember Cormac trying out and he was actually very good :P I loved all the action shots with the camera: quick movements of the players and the grand landscape of the grounds behind them. It was pretty awesome on screen. Ginny also tried out but she was so good that it was obvious she made it in the film. I remember Dean and Seamus too: Seamus was awful. Haha!Though his scene was few seconds long. Almost everyone played like creating small teams and flying over the stadium and trying to get the ball and stuff. Pretty action-packed stuff. Ron's moment was brilliant. He was so desperate. Cormac made 'fun' of him but not in an obvious way. Cormac was damn arrogant. Anyway Hermione used the Confunding spell on Cormac and so Ron entered the team. Lavender and Luna are there too. Luna is just watching (her look is so funny...she's like examining each player's movement or whatever...but she's lost in it. Get what I mean?). Lavender is so nervous when Ron's trying out and when he becomes a Keeper she is just crazy. Hermione is annoyed. Anyway it was a quite long scene (might have been longer than 5 minutes but I can't remember)...

    The Quidditch Match was another highlight. The scene was short...a lot shorter than the tryouts. It must have been 1 minute tops. But I may be wrong. Maybe it was so action-packed and fast paced that I felt like only seconds passed by. Anyway...the match is great. Everything's beautiful: there's snow falling and everything is snow-capped...the mountains, the forest, the castle...even that waterfall is almost frozen in some close shots. The Slytherins are quite violent and Ginny kicks their butt three times (oh yes she has three extremely cool moments). Ron saves the day in the end. But the whole match scene is a violent and fast-paced one.
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    Do you see Harry catch the snitch?
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009
     
    No..
    I don't remember Harry in that match doing anything rather than flying and watching what's going on...as I told you it's a pretty fast-paced scene and scenes change rapidly and it's a short scene in general but I am sure I didn't see him chasing the Snitch or even catching it...

    The focus is Ron...it's all about Ron. I guess that's the main reason that they brought the game back...it helps with the Lav-lav/Hermione triangle. And of course it adds small parts of action and magic in the middle of the film and shows Ginny's talent...no focus on Harry unfortunately. But you won't even care...actually the film won't leave you time to think about Harry at the game at all...the entire film is full of so many different scenes that you have to catch up with so Quidditch is just a lovely moment.
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      CommentAuthorkeet
    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009
     
    i can't wait to see it!
    cheers for the post jack09
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    Just one more question can you describe the Train part and the when the trio go to Diagon Alley?
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    • CommentTimeJul 6th 2009 edited
     

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    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
     
    No problem.I'd love to answer as much as possible. I know how you feel.


    Well Hogwarts Express is traveling and we see the Trio discussing Draco in their compartment. We see the first scene with Luna giving the Quibbler magazines to people (as well as to Ginny and Hermione too). Evanna Lynch is a sweetheart. Anyway there is a large dining car where students sit and chat and Draco is discussing his plans with Pansy, Crabbe, Goyle and Zabini. Harry is going there under the Cloak. He listens everything. But it's nothing really important. Draco is evil and arrogant. Lovely because he becomes extremely vulnerable in the next hour of the film. Anyway when it's darker (some beautiful dusk moments with the train oh I love the cinematography) they all start walking away because they're reaching Hogwarts. With the lights and a tiny sound Draco sees something and understands someone is invisible. He petrifies Harry who falls on the floor and he stomps on Harry's nose. He is leaving and he goes to the forest. Just then Luna is coming and she's wearing her Spectrespecs and finds Harry. They walk away from the Train Station and we cut to a beautiful tracking shot of them walking in a forest pathway leading to the Gates and the Walls of Hogwarts.



    Now the Diagon Alley scene...there is a truly beautiful moment where they walk down the street. Reminds of old Philosopher's Stone moments. But the Diagon Alley is far better. The set is amazing. They see Ollivander's shop and it's completely destroyed. They walk inside and look around. They're all sad. When they exit they see the shop of the Twins and enter. Well I'm not going to spoil this but the shop is amazing.Great details and lots of fun. A really great moment of comedy and magic. Ginny and Hermione look at Love Potions and Fred and George come and tell that they know Ginny's a heartbreaker for the boys. Anyway they see Narcissa and Draco outside walking suspiciously. The trio runs after them and enter the Knockturn Alley (another detailed set with great atmosphere). When they see them meeting Greyback outside Burgin and Burkes and entering they climb up a roof to see what's going on from the upper window. And they see them all gathering and speaking suspiciously. Everyone thinks that's the place the Death Eaters meet. A really dark scene, IMO. And it cuts to the Hogwarts Express traveling scene.
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    Thanks so much I can't wait. Ok then i'll ask what about the Hogsmeade scene, and did they came the scene of Nigel on the toilet durning the Sectumsempra part?
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      CommentAuthorrabastan
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
     
    Harry James Potter wrote:
    Nigel on the toilet durning the Sectumsempra part?


    o_O
    wtf? lol
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      CommentAuthorkeet
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
     
    lol rabastan............ excactly wot i ws thinkin!
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    No there was a funny scene in the test screening reports saying Nigel was on the toilet durning that part as Harry and Malfoy dueled, and many say it would be cut from the final cut. So I was asking did it stay?

    Here's the report:

    A Test Screener Said:

    When Harry and Draco fight in the toilets, Nigel is sits frozen in a cubical.

    The scene is truly dark and serious; the touch of humor with the kid on the loo was a surprisingly well placed moment of humor as it did not spoil the mood. You think it would but it doesn't. It’s only about 5 seconds of screen time, something tells me it may be cut later, but I think they should leave it in.

    It's actually more of a "fight scene" - it's kind of cool that way - and yes, Harry is obviously disturbed by what he's done and horrified at the effect that the spell has

    For those asking about the bloodiness of the Sectumsempra scene, it was not very bloody but many of the wounds on Draco did not appear to be gushing. Before you all get upset, I think the extra blood is probably just a special effect not yet added. The scene implied much more blood than was seen. I am pretty sure this will be added in later.

    When Harry casts Sectumsempra, Snape runs in and heals Draco's wounds with a spell that sounds almost like a song. Snape does not use Legilimency on Harry, and Harry runs straight out of the bathroom and into McGonagall who's standing in the doorway.
    Snape does not question Harry whatsover. He does not even speak to him. No Roonil Waslib.
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2009
     
    Lol I don't remember Nigel actually...but if it's such a short moment then I may haven't noticed it but I surely don't remember it...but it may have escaped my notice...


    Whatever the Hogsmeade scene is cool. In any way. I loved the moment when they walk down the Main Street...remember the beautiful snow-covered houses and shops in Prisoner of Azkaban? It's something like that in HBP too. They talk about the Half-Blood Prince book and look at the shops and the people around them (I remember Neville :P). They meet Hagrid and they walk together. They go to the Three Broomsticks where they meet Slughorn. That was a pretty funny scene. Harry is trying to approach Slughorn in order to let Sluggy collect him (the previous scene before the Hogsmeade one was the first lesson with Dumbledore who told Harry to do so). He invites Harry and Hermione to his evening dinner party and he doesn't even notice Ron (poor Ron he looks so sad and annoyed :P). Anyway Ron notices Ginny kissing Dean in a corner and Harry is obviously irritated. Hermione is brilliant though. She says something like 'what would Ginny do if she found you snogging with me?' Ron blushes. Extremely funny moment. Oh Draco leaves the pub and Harry's all suspicious. I also remember Katie Bell but I may be wrong....It cuts to the outskirts of the village and the three fins Katie Bell arguing with Leanne. Katie suddenly flies in the air and screams. It's a truly chilling scene. Really spooky and eerie. Shen she falls down...she falls like a marionette. It's very spooky. Hagrid runs and takes her to the castle. The others are just shocked.
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      CommentAuthordmalfoy
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2009
     
    The fact that they try and make Ginny semm all powerful pisses me off. urgh
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    Thanks for answering my questions.
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      CommentAuthorWilbo421
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2009
     
    dmalfoy wrote:
    The fact that they try and make Ginny semm all powerful pisses me off. urgh


    wtf are you talking about?
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    dmalfoy wrote:
    The fact that they try and make Ginny semm all powerful pisses me off. urgh


    In the book it clearly states the Ginny is strong because she has six older brothers, and she's the only girl. Harry thought this before the kiss in Deathly Hallows.
  8.  
    Jack:

    After the cave scene, did they keep in the part where everyone is looking at the sky in Hogwarts, such as McGonnagal and Ron/Hermione? Also, is there still the scene of Draco walking out of the hospital wing and heading to the Vanishing Cabinet to meet the Death Eaters?
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    Also, do we ever see the Carrows in the movie?

    How long does Dumbledore speak to Draco for before the Death Eaters arrive?

    Is there still the scene of Snape/Mcgonnagal inspecting the necklace?
  10.  
    One last thing, mate: does Dumbledore mention to Draco that he knew he was working for Voldemort, but didn't say anything to protect him? When Snape reveals that he's the half blood prince, does he mention harry using his spells at all?
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2009
     
    Hey
    Well

    1,Yes after the Cave scene we see a montage of short scenes at Hogwarts. McGonagall is in a courtyard with some students who all look up to the ominous cloud formations. The clouds are like the Dark Mark so it's great forshadowing. Ron and Hermione are in the Common Room if I'm correct. We also see Snape in McGonagall's classroom looking at the sky. Draco goes to the Room of Requirement and opens the Vanishing Cabinet. The Death Eaters enter the castle and Bellatrix is laughing evilly. This scene is around 1-1.5 minute long. A very good build-up scene. And the music was chilling.

    2. We see the Carrows. In the beginning I remember all masked Death Eaters except Bellatrix and Greyback. But then yes we see a short woman and another tall man always next to her so I guess these are Alecto and Amycus. No mention though. But they are there. Rowle is there too (a blonde guy).

    3.Dumbledore speaks to Draco for around 1.5-2 minutes. It's a nice touching moment. Very moving. Draco eventually breaks down. Dumbledore looks at him with loving eyes. It's an emotional moment.

    4.Yes Snape and McGonagall do examine the necklace.

    5. Yes yes. Draco tells him that if he doesn't kill him he'll die. Dumbledore tells him that's the reason he didn't do anything the entire school year.

    6. Yes. Well let me get this straight. If you expect a proper long duel this does not happen. Harry is the weak one so he's constantly shooting spells to Snape who deflects them all the time. Snape doesn't really attack Harry because he knows he's too weak. Bellatrix is watching them and she's laughing. She runs and hits Harry with a curse. She bursts into evil laughters again and approaches Harry. Snape tells her to go away. She leaves and Snape starts following as Harry's on the ground. Harry challenges him again and he shoots the Sectumsempra spell which makes Snape truly angry. Snape deflects it again and fires at Harry who falls on the ground again. Snape tells him that Harry uses his spells against him and he's the Half-Blood Prince. Snape looks at the silent place and walks to the trees. That's it. The whole chase is 2 minutes I'd say. It feels longer because spells collide in seconds and stuff but there is nothing big here. The burning of the Hut is quite spectacular and makes for a great background to the duel with the combination of the dark clouds and the gothic castle. So cinematically and visually it is one of the most beautiful moments but it doesn't last. Harry shoots few spells, Snape blocks them, Bellatrix hits Harry, the DEs leave, Harry shouts Sectumsempra and Snape deflects it and reveal his identity. I was disappointed that this scene was so quick. But perhaps it had to be that way because when it cut to Dumbledore's dead body scene I still had the impace of the death. When the Death Eaters run through Hogwarts and destroy the Great Hall there is adrenaline. The Grounds scene is more about the revelation so don't expect anything action-packed. It's just a 4/5-minute scene totally closing the climax. If there is something worth the wait it's the Cave scene and the Astronomy Tower scene. The Flight of the Prince just ends it nicely.
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      CommentAuthorkeet
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2009
     
    Did i read right did they cut out the line "i am with you...." by dumbledore!? hope not!
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2009 edited
     
    I really don't remember...Definitely when they apparate back there is a whole full minute with Harry and Dumbledore atop the Tower but it's mostly Dumbledore ordering Harry to hide. I can't remember...:|


    Oh I want to mention that you'll love the landscape of the Astronomy Tower sequence. The cinematography is beautiful and the score is low yet chilling and it closes with some choir stuff that make it all even spookier. But the colors of the sky and the surrounding mountains and towers are amazing. And the set is beautiful too. Anyway the Tower scene is epic. It's epic in so many ways. Even a battle with the Order would feel lackluster, trust me. It will stick you. And you'll love it.
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    Thanks, Jack. Last thing:

    1) After Dumbledore summons the fire, beats back the Inferi, etc, do they immediately Apparate out of the cave? How are Gambon's emotions when Dumbledore is begging for water in the cave? Does he act like Gambon normally does, or do we see some emotion?

    2) When Snape kills Dumbledore, do we actually get to see Dumbledore slowly fall back, or do we only see Snape fire the spell? How are Dan's emotions as Harry after he sees Dumbledore fall? And when he's crying over Dumbledore's body, can we actually see his tears? What does he do, exactly?

    Does Hagrid say anything after Dumbledore dies?
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    Also, after Dumbledore is hit with the spell, do we hear a bit of "In Noctem"(the choir song) from the soundtrack?

    In the movie at the end, does Harry mention going after Snape, like he does in the book?

    How many times is the HBP referenced in the movie, besides the Potions lesson?

    Also, do we see any new DADT lessons with Snape?
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2009
     
    1)Well Dumbledore creates the firestorm and the Inferi crawl back into the lake releasing Harry who swims to the surface. Dumbledore protects him and the fire become a massive fiery passage let's say which surrounds the entire cave and they are capable of taking the boat and sailing silently to the other shore. As I told you I don't remember them apparating at all. It is an epic scene with the boat sailing and the flames surrounding the lake and I think it ends there. But I may have forgotten something.
    Gambon is really good in this film. I loved his performance. He and Rickman are definitely the best (as well as Broadbent and Carter). So don't worry. And yes Dumbledore starts drinking the potion and he loses his power and becomes really weak. He's about to break down completely and he's murmuring words of despair. Harry goes and gives him the potion. That's a really shocking moment because it seems 'unethical' (for Harry). Because he's giving the death potion to Dumbledore. So it's an emotional scene.

    2)No we don't see Dumbledore. It cuts to Snape shooting the Avada Kedavra curse and it cuts to Harry looking completely shocked under the floor. Chilling choir is heard and then we cut to Dumbledore falling off the tower. And it cuts back to Snape looking at the sky in front of him. A very mysterious shot of him. And we hear Bellatrix laughing and the Death Eaters start approaching the balcony and Snape grabs a completely stunned Draco and they leave. Bellatrix looks at the base of the tower and creates the Dark mark.
    Harry is just...shocked. He doesn't have time to grieve because there would be no chase afterwards. So Harry is hiding from the Death Eaters who run away. There is a very short moment where Harry just doesn't know what to do bt he starts running down the stairwell of the tower seeing the Death Eaters who have reached the bottom of the staircases.
    The Farewell scene to Dumbledore is the most emotional scene of the film. And yes Harry cries. Ginny sobs too. Actually lots of people cry silently. It's a really sad moment. And Dan is more mature. And he has few minutes to express his grief so I guess you'll love it.


    Hagrid doesn't even exist in this film. i remember him very few times: the trip to Hogsmeade where he walks in the village and talks with the trio for a minute or so, the scene where he takes Katie to the castle, Aragog's burial and the drunk scene with Slughorn and the scene where they salute Dumbledore. So...no lines at all. But he's sad like everyone. I guess they should have shown a little bit more with him crying heavily but anyway...


    I've heard 'In Noctem' and the choir is almost the same but it is a much smaller part that we hear and it has deeper sounds and it has some spooky sounds too.


    No it doesn't. Harry just makes it clear he's going to find the Horcruxes. No mention to Snape. No mention to the Half-Blood Prince or Eileen Prince...nothing at all.


    HBP is referenced very few times. As in the book, the HBP plotline is limited. Well Harry uses that book during the Potions lesson and then there's a scene with Ginny who finds out the identity of the person who had it. Harry has found the Sectumsempra spell but nothing else happens. They discuss it at their Hogsmeade walk before meeting Hagrid. Other than that, we just see Harry in the Great Hall or in the Common Room holding the book or reading it. Nothing else. After the Sectumsempra spell there's an intense discussion with Ginny,Harry and Hermione about the book. And Ginny helps Harry hide it. Then Harry uses Sectumsempra twice I think during his duel with Snape (one in the beginning when he's shooting a barrage of spells) and another time when Snape's about to leave which leads to the revelation. So it's nothing big in the film. But I didn't have any problem with that.


    No DADA lesson with Snape. Quite disappointing actually. But Snape has more scenes in this one and when he's onscreen he makes every shot worth the wait. So I'm OK with this.
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    Do they ever try to research the identity of the HBP in the movie, like at the library?

    How much screentime does Tonks have in the film? Does it show that she's with Remus?
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    Also, how did the Quidditch scenes look? Best visuals yet?

    Roughly how many scenes do Harry/Dumbledore have in the movie? Five?
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2009
     
    No.No research in the library...nothing at all.

    Tonks has roughly 5 minutes in the film..she's only at the Burrow during Christmas holidays and yes we know they're a couple.

    Yeah Quidditch has the best visuals...It's pity the match lasts very few seconds. :(

    You mean scenes only with Harry and Dumbledore and no one else?
    Uhm...
    1.Opening Ministry scene
    2.Tube Station scene where DD takes Harry to Slughorn's
    3.DD leaving Harry at the Burrow
    4. First private lesson
    5.Second private lesson
    6. Scene with the Horcruxes
    7.Harry and DD atop the Tower
    8.The Cave
    9.Harry and DD atop the Tower before the death scene

    These are Harry-Dumbledore-only scenes. But Dumbledore has another bunch of 5-6 scenes.
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    Sorry if I'm bothering ya, but:

    How many scenes would you say Slughorn has?
    How long does the Dinner Party scene last where Draco is caught?
    How was Helen as Narcissa Malfoy?
    In the Borgin/Burkes scene, what exactly do they see?
    In the Unbreakable Vow scene, does Bella question why Snape wasn't loyal to Voldemort enough/why didn't he act? Does she question him at all?
  16.  
    Also, would you say that this movie is faithful to the spirit of the book?

    When the DEs are escaping from the castle, how much destruction do we see? We've seen bits of them destroying the Great Hall. Does Snape say, "It's over"?
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2009
     
    1.Slughorn has LOTS of scenes. He's one of the main characters in the film no worries.
    2. Around 4-5 minutes...
    3. McCrory was really good. The Vow scene is a really awesome scene.
    4. They...don't see anything in particular. Just Draco,Narcissa,Greyback and some shadows from a window...On the train, Harry explains that he thinks that Borgin and Burkes is the place where the DEs meet.
    5.Sort of. It's quite complicated. But yes Bellatrix does question him but not as much as in the book. It's a really great scene trust me.
  17.  
    There's also a scene in which Snape/Dumbledore are hard arguing, right?

    Did you watch the final version of the movie?
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2009
     
    Yes it was the final version.

    Sort of arguing.It's very brief. Only 10 seconds I'd say.Harry walks up to the tower and see them talking. He hears few things as we approach them...Only 2-3 lines from each. It's brief.But great forshadowing too.
  18.  
    Do you have any personal favorite scenes from the movie?
  19.  
    Like any of the comedic/romance/action scenes?

    How was the romance/comedy handled with the action?
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTime7 days ago
     
    Personal favorite scenes huh?
    -Unbreakable Vow scene
    -The whole trip to Diagon Alley
    -Burrow X-mas scenes
    -All Dumbledore scenes
    -The Climax
    -The Aftermath



    There were many funny moments and other romantic ones that deserve one's attention. I am afraid there's very limited action in this film. Of course the Bridge attack is spectacular on the big screen, the Cave is a really breathtaking set piece and the special effects are mind-blowing, the Quidditch scenes are the best in the series but except for all that...there's nothing else really action-packed. Well in the middle of the film there was way too much romance. It was all about Quidditch,Lavender,Hermione,Ginny then again Slug's party,Lavender,Ginny,Ron and again and again, Though it was refreshing and funny and there were some beautiful shots and acting it dragged a bit. It made you forget all about the serious plots. It's a part where Dumbledore has disappeared from the film because he's traveling and Draco comes back to the story at the Party scenes. So it's all about romance. But I have to say that there are tiny dark moments throughout these scenes )like a shot of Draco on a towering part of the castle looking at the snowy landscape at night which reminds you of his mission or another shot of Draco hiding in a corridor when Slug Party is about to start. But I'm afraid romance and comedy are the biggest moments in the middle part. But after the Burrow attack we've got very few romantic moments left. A couple of moments with Lavender,Ron lovestuck, the Hospital Wing scene, the kiss with Ginny and everything else is about Dumbledore/Slughorn and Draco so it's a darker and far more intense moment. And the climax and aftermath have no comedy or romance no worries.It's all about darkness then.
  20.  
    Btw, is Fudge's sacking/Fudge himself or the Ministry ever mentioned in the movie?
    • CommentAuthorMiradon
    • CommentTime7 days ago
     
    What did you think of the opening prologue of the ministry flashback?
  21.  
    When Harry says "Fight back you coward!", does Snape look angry at all in the film?
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTime7 days ago
     
    1.No mention about Fudge.

    2. The prologue was sad. A brilliant short moment in the film. And you feel the really tight relationship between Harry and Dumbledore. It's very sad.

    3. Snape looks angry in the end of the duel after the Sectumsempra scene. Harry shoots the spell and Snape deflects it and he's looking at him very angrily. And that's when he approaches Harry and reveals his identity. But during the entire scene I'd say Snape is just this mysterious, cold and determined man. Usual Rickman. Great stuff. I guess being all furious would have been out of character for movie-Snape.
  22.  
    Is Ron's owl in the movie?
    • CommentAuthorJack09
    • CommentTime6 days ago
     
    I don't think so...I vaguely remember Hedwig...:P
    • CommentAuthorMiradon
    • CommentTime6 days ago
     
    What is the aftermath of the sectemsempra scene like?